i don't know, but i'd like all the hunters to come to the table as well as the people who live in cities who do not want guns and want gun controls. we had need a real dialogue, not just a one-sided one. we need to talk about xbox 360, wii, and the games, how far down into children they're getting. we need to talk about movies. we need to talk about the rating sims, what's in pg and pg-13 are pretty violent. i think we just have a culture we need to address in its totality if we're going to take people who are clearly mentally ill and try to give them help earlier. i thought charles crowdhammer, who is a psychiatrist, had a point, where it's harder to commit someone for treatment today because it does interfere with certain privacy rights, but yet here we have this is nutty people with huge firearms and a culture that desensitizes people to mass killings, and i think all of those things have to be on the table. >> you're putting everything on the table including clips. thank you, senator. >>> the great holiday getaway is under way. where the trouble spots are today, and members of the se